Bandanaman
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| 20 Sep 2006 10:53 AM |
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Very clever of you to talk about brain damage on an amateur boxing forum Prattler! |
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Canvas Back
Light Flyweight
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| 20 Sep 2006 10:53 PM |
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Prattler by name, Prat by nature: Another one of the hooray henries I suppose! What grade did you make prat?
For your future reference the name comes from my younger days, because thats where 90% of my opponents ended up, back to the CANVAS, which is probably where you have been most of your life. Judging by your threads!!! |
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JASPER
Flyweight
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| 23 Sep 2006 8:38 AM |
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 PRATTLER, WELL SLAP MY LEGS I MADE A MISTAKE IN MY POSTINGS, I MEAN EX WING COMMANDER A.ATTWOOD F.R.C.S.
WHAT EXACTLY IS INCORRECT WITH MY THREADS?
WELL SLAP MY LEGS FOR A SECOND TIME I WRITE IN CAPITOLS (WHATS THE PROBLEM THE GRAMMAR OR THE TOPIC)?
EMOTION WHERE DOES THAT COME INTO IT, THE ONLY EMOTION I CAN SEE IS ALL WITH YOU. (EMOTIONALLY DISBURBED) AFTER LAST PATHETIC PARAGRAPH WHICH I WONT REPEAT!
I HOPE I HAVE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS IN FULL.... |
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sammy
Flyweight
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| 28 Sep 2006 2:15 PM |
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Jasper your always bangin and s*ag ing someone of when are you coming up to our gym big Paul, like you said the lads are waiting and Ben does not know you.
Are you a TRAINER from a club. |
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Canvas Back
Light Flyweight
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| 29 Sep 2006 2:06 PM |
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 Hey steady on Sammy or should I call you Samantha, because you talk like a girl.you are cruising for a bruising from the big fella.Oh and by the way do your parents know you are on the internet? |
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larks
Light Flyweight
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| 01 Oct 2006 1:15 PM |
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 I can tell you dont know alot about diabetics sammy, but any need to resort to a slanging match. If you dont know anything then your mum should of tought you to, BE QUITE. |
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alibumaye
Light Flyweight
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| 05 Oct 2006 11:37 AM |
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Non of you have got a clue what your talking about
Canvas Back and larks have got there hands so far up the rear of JASPER its unbelieveable. |
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JASPER
Flyweight
Posts:62
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| 05 Oct 2006 1:20 PM |
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WELCOME BACK ALIBUMAYE,I`VE MISSED YOUR SCATHING COMMENTS. HAVE YOU BEEN IN REHAB?
IF SO IT MUST BE WORKING,(NOT A SWEAR WORD IN SIGHT)KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. |
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alibumaye
Light Flyweight
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| 05 Oct 2006 4:47 PM |
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| Now one can say anything to you with out your two little bi*ches answering for you |
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JASPER
Flyweight
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| 05 Oct 2006 4:56 PM |
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TEMPER TEMPER ALI. YOU DON`T MIND ME CALLING YOU ALI DO YOU. |
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larks
Light Flyweight
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| 06 Oct 2006 9:22 PM |
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alibumaye,
this posting is about boxers who have diabeties and are unable to box because of rules the abae have at this present moment in time {subject to change}.
I suggest if people like you and sammy who never seem to have anything topical to say,apart from s*ag in anyone of because they may have a different view to you, say nowt, cause you aint worth talkin to or listin to . |
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Tony Attwood
Flyweight
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| 07 Oct 2006 12:54 AM |
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Having returned from the EABA & AIBA Medical Commission meetings I will give the latest update despite the fact I said in my last posting that I would not comment further until there was something POSITIVE to tell you.
The meetings did not come up with any more suggestions for allowing diabetics to box.
In fact the discussions I had with doctors from other countries who currently allow Diabetics to box indicates that the regulations are tightening and fewer and fewer diabetics are taking part. One country already insists that the diabetic boxer’s specialist doctor is present. Others insist that the boxer’s specialist provides a signed declaration that they take responsibility that their patient is fit to box.
Both of these points are as required by ABAE and as of now no English diabetic “boxer” has had their own consultant back them to this degree such that the consultant is either willing to look after the boxer at all the tournaments or accept responsibility for the boxer.
So Larks you now have the facts, as has everyone else who follows this topic, and there is going to be no change until the specialist doctors assume responsibility for their diabetic patients. May I also ask you to read your postings before submitting them so that you can check what you say makes sense as, although I have had a good English education, I cannot work out what you mean at times even allowing for typing and spelling difficulties.
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JASPER
Flyweight
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| 07 Oct 2006 10:47 AM |
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EX WING COMMANDER ATTWOOD - IS THIS ANOTHER RED WINE FUELLED RANT?
JUDGING BY THE TIME OF YOUR POSTING, IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS.
YOU SAID YOU WOULD NOT MAKE A COMMENT AGAIN UNLESS IT WAS POSITIVE, EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID IS NEGATIVE. THIS SUMMER YOU SQUIRMED YOUR WAY ONTO THE EABA MEDICAL PANEL PROBABLY WITH THE INTENTION OF YOUR WHOLE PLAN TO RID THE SPORT OF COMPETING DIABETICS, BECAUSE SOMEBODY QUESTIONED YOUR AUTHORITY!!!
BUT DO THE MEMBERS KNOW THAT THE SECRETARY TO THE EABE MEDICAL COMMISSION IS YOUR OLD PAL FROM IRELAND, WHO BACKS YOU IN EVERYTHING YOU DEMAND (THATS PROBABLY WHY ALL THE EMAILS I HAVE SENT TO EABA,I HAVE NEVER EVEN HAD A REPLY).
I WOULD PRESUME HE IS THE ONE THAT REQUIRES THE SPECIALIST TO BE RINGSIDE AT EVERY BOUT "NOW WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT BEFORE"
YOU HAVE NOW TOLD A BLATENT LIE IN BLACK AND WHITE EX WING COMMANDER - A LITTLE REMINDER.
THE TWO DIABETIC BOXING TWINS FROM DEVON - YOU AUTHORISED THEIR BOUTS IF THEIR CONSULTANTS WERE RINGSIDE (OF WHICH I HAVE A COPY FROM CRYSTAL PALACE). ONCE YOU KNEW I WAS IN RECEIPT OF THIS COPY THE TWINS HAD THEIR ME3 CARDS WITHDRAWN! YOU JUST MADE A COMMENT "AS OF NOW, NO ENGLISH DIABETIC BOXER HAS HAD THEIR OWN CONSULTANT BACK THEM TO THIS DEGREE"
IS THIS THE LATEST OUTBURST IN EXPECTION OF WHAT IS TO COME THIS MONTH FROM DUK AND BSPED. YOU REMEMBER THEN DONT YOU?
YOU ASKED FOR A PAEDIATRIC BODY TO APPROVE OF CRITERIA GUIDELINES TO ALLOW DIABETICS TO BOX. THIS YOU WILL SOON HAVE (DONT MOVE THE GOAL POSTS AGAIN PLEASE).
REGARDING OTHER POSTINGS AND GRAMMAR THERE IS NO NEED TO BE PATRONISING. SOME PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN BORN WITH A SILVER SPOON IN THEIR MOUTHS.
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Tony Attwood
Flyweight
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| 07 Oct 2006 10:57 PM |
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Temper Temper Jasper,
I apologised that I was writing a post that was not positive but I know that if I had not reported on the meetings (positive or negative) you would write some other vitriolic rubbish. I know that you find out when these meetings are held and expect a response. I gave you a report.
Sorry that the truthful report was not to your liking.
As for EABA, the report was the same as AIBA, so your rudeness to other members of EABA is also unjustified and it would not matter whether I was on the EABA Medical Commission or not. The secretary of EABA Medical Commission reports Commission business as required by the Commission. Whether that person is a friend of mine or not is irrelevant and I have no influence. As it happens, I consider other members of the Commissions who support Diabetics boxing are also friends.
We all try to work for the benefit of boxing and personal views are heard but policy is by overall consent.
I cannot be bothered to put the facts down to every inaccurate comment written by you on this subject. It would fill another complete forum page on this topic. Suffice to say now that I work everyday and check e-mails and look at the forum after the other work has been done. That is usually after midnight and as I am on-call all the time I have no opportunity for what you describe as “RED WINE FUELLED RANT”.
Perhaps you should look back again at all your correspondence because I have always said that if diabetics want to box and their own consultant was prepared to attend all their events then the ABAE Medical Commission would look at the application and the consultant letters and issue an individual approval. You and Larks keep referring to “TWO DIABETIC BOXING TWINS FROM DEVON” (by the way, have there ever been more or less then “TWO” twins?) and nothing has changed.
Exactly as you wrote “IF THEIR CONSULTANTS WERE RINGSIDE” is what I have said before and above. Unfortunately there was an administrative error that issued them an ordinary ME3 instead of special authorisation do *** ents. The ME3s were withdrawn immediately it was discovered that the special authorisation requirements had not been met. Their consultant never agreed to be ringside nor was present and so the overall policy is still the same.
Finally, I went to local schools and worked to get on. My father boxed for his University and became a teacher so, despite your assertion, there were no silver spoons for my family. I do not have to patronise, I just want to understand what is written.
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JASPER
Flyweight
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| 08 Oct 2006 9:44 AM |
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:whistling EAR MR. ATTWOOD
IAM SORRY YOUR WORK LOAD DEMANDS SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME THAT YOU CANNOT ACCESS YOUR COMPUTER UNTIL LATE AT NIGHT. MAYBE YOU SHOULD'NT BE TAKING ON SO MUCH WORK, BECAUSE IT MAY IMPAIR YOUR JUDGEMENT ON MATTERS.
IF YOUR WORK LOAD IS TOO GREAT AS A PROFESSIONAL YOU WOULD'NT REALLY EXPECT A DIABETIC SPECIALIST LOOKING AFTER THOUSANDS OF PATIENTS AND WHO IS ALSO ON CALL TRAVEL THE LENGTH AND BREADTH OF THE COUNTRY TO ATTEND BOXING COMPETITIONS, WHERE YOU KNOW AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FORUM THAT SOME OF THE BEST PLANNED BOUTS FALL FLAT AND DONT TAKE PLACE.
THE SPECIALIST HAS INFORMED YOU THAT THE BEST PERSON TO ADMINISTER CARE TO A DIABETIC IS THE PERSON CLOSEST TO THEM WHO KNOWS THEIR CONDITION, AS A CONSULTANT ONLY SEES THEM QUARTERLY.
IF I WAS TO PRODUCE A LETTER FROM MY SONS CONSULTANT HANDING OVER CARE TO ME, WOULD YOU ISSUE THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO LET HIM BOX? |
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Tony Attwood
Flyweight
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| 09 Oct 2006 10:25 AM |
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Only once the National Specialist Associations have approved the criteria for Diabetics to box and the ABAE has received confirmation that any individual meets those criteria, then care at the event may devolve away from the consultant and other doctors may be able to take over. Medical care will never be allowed to be passed away to lay persons for any condition.
The request for the consultant to attend was to try to allow diabetics to box (but still providing the specialist care that may be required) before the Nationallly approved criteria had been set out. |
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larks
Light Flyweight
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| 10 Oct 2006 3:42 PM |
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Mr Attwood,
Why do you keep changing the criteria for what is need to let diabetics box. As you well know I have been trying to establish what is required from you for the last two years.
Your last official stance was that you required a standard from specialist doctors. This has been done and will be presented to you within the next three weeks after an awful lot of hard work from Diabetes UK and the British Society for Paediatric Endocrinology and Diabetes. Now you mention the National Specialist Associations please excuse my ignorance but i have never heard of them. Why did you not mention you wanted and standard that was to be composed,to be passed by this association in the first place. Is this just another delaying measure of yours. |
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prattler
Light Flyweight
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| 11 Oct 2006 12:50 AM |
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Perhaps Attwood is right and you are thick Larks.
He hasn't changed anything in his comments.
"National Specialist Associations" are for any condition and are the organisations for people who look after the condition.
I reckon he is still waiting for the Diabetic doctors to give their answers, but then perhaps the International rules are changing. |
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sammy
Flyweight
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| 11 Oct 2006 3:29 PM |
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Prattler those two PLONKERS Larks and Jasper know nothing about boxing, THEY ARE DIABETIC SPECIALISTS the doctor answers there questions and they still go on crusading.     |
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larks
Light Flyweight
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| 12 Oct 2006 9:53 AM |
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| I do not confess to knowing everything about boxing at all. That is one of the reasons i am on this forum, to learn more, but obviously not from dickeds like youself. Diabetes UK have never heard of "National Specialist Association" either so you had better give them the knowdledge of your expertise as well. |
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